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Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

Jeff — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:35:21 -0000

Get the Blinder to make your car invisible to LIDAR.

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

I stop for red lights. Why don — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:16:08 -0000

Unreadable by the camera I understand.
BUT it must be able to be read by human eye's.
If human eye's can read it so can the camera's.
In all the years I have reading about these tricks to avoid either red light or speed camera's or radar-lidar detection.
When tested by independent source's, not the manufacture's tests, not one have ever proven to effectively work.
I have been reading about these device's for 30+ years looking for something that truly works beside making somebody some money for nothing.

Not even when the painted a car with the same radar absorbing material used on stealth aircraft.
While some products do get you a little closer to the detection device before being detected nothing got you close enough to avoid getting caught.

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

Jeff — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:08:54 -0000

That's the whole idea - make the plate unreadable.

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

I stop for red lights — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:59:48 -0000

Black?
That would make reading your plate an impossibility.

Maybe your referring to a black border around the license plate?

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

Jeff — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:36:44 -0000

I have been using a black license plate cover for 15 years and have never been stopped by police.

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I stop for red lights — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:02:58 -0000

Jeff on Dec 24, 2008

The black plastic plate covers are not worthless.

A black plastic plate cover is illegal.
The license plate must be visible and not blocked by a black plate cover.

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

Jeff — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:15:45 -0000

The black plastic plate covers are not worthless.

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

I stop for red lights. Why don — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:23:32 -0000

Steven D,
I see you aren't aware that those license plate sprays DO NOT work.
Not only has Myth Busters proved they don't but so has a few Car magazine's.
The plastic plate cover's are also worthless.
Same thing with radar absorbing paint.
OUCH very expensive!
Special radar absorbing car bra's only helped a little and expensive.

Make sure you have enough funds available relying on your spray. :-)

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

James — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:12:46 -0000

Red light cameras are not designed to reduce the road toll, but increase revenue.

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

Observer — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:10:44 -0000

You should think things through before you call somebody else a moron so you don't expose yourself as one.

The phase when all lights are red (which has NOTHING to do with the length of the yellow) allows cars that have legally entered the intersection just before the light turns red to clear the intersection before the light for the cross street turns green. If the all-red phase lasts a second or two longer, it allows the jerks who blast through after the light has turned red to clear the intersection as well. There's no reason you couldn't also put up cameras to catch the violators and punish them appropriately, but that in itself will have no immediate impact on safety.

The deadliest accidents are caused by someone blowing through the red light in the middle of the cycle because they didn't see it, and there's nothing signal timing or red-light cameras can do to prevent those.

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

Greg — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:05:51 -0000

The red light cameras.

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G-DOG — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:05:19 -0000

Society today is so messed up.

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I stop for red lights. Why don — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:28:43 -0000

What stupid things Greg?

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Greg — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:36:57 -0000

I hate those stupid things

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

I stop for red lights. Why don — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:10:08 -0000

"By Jeff in St. Louis on Oct 10, 2008

I was going to write a post called “Niel Hopper is a Moron” but I figured “why bother.” The failure to use any sort of reasoning speaks for itself."

What failure?
The fact that lengthening the yellow light will not cut down on red light running?
I know that intersection very well.
It's true what was written.
Even with "ALL" lanes getting a red signal the red light runner's still crashed into innocent driver's.
STOP getting upset over the camera's.
Start getting upset becasue of the red light runner's have brought camera's onto all of us.
Not the people who stop for red light's.
But the one's who don't!

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

Jeff in St. Louis — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:05:52 -0000

I was going to write a post called "Niel Hopper is a Moron" but I figured "why bother." The failure to use any sort of reasoning speaks for itself.

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

joe — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:49:15 -0000

im doin a perssuavive essay on traffic lights u got info that will help me out?

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stop for red lights — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:49:37 -0000

"By Neil Hopper on Jan 9, 2008

If an intersection has a lot of collisions caused by drivers running red lights, just lengthen the all-red phase. Costs nothing, solves the problem. Red light cameras do nothing to solve the problem, they just generate revenue."

Nope. Not true.
If it was all about revenue then they would lower speed limits 5 or 10 mph.
Shorten the yellow to 2 seconds.
As for all red phasing.
Nope doesn't work.
In Suffolk County NY their was an intersection that made the top 10 for accidents.
The brain dead created the problem.
2 lanes east. 2 lanes west.
Separate light controlled left turn lanes.
The north south lanes ran separately.
No traffic ever crossed each other on the green and ALL lanes had a red light at the same time until traffic cleared.
The brain dead red light runner's still caused horrific accident's anyway.
Their is going to be one way to curtail these red light runner's.
Camera's and steep fines.
I have seen red light runner's drive through red lights as much as 20 seconds after the light has turned red.
I've had them drive around me while stopping for a red light that was red even before I reached the painted white line and they were BEHIND ME!
You don't like the camera's?
Don't blame the government.
Blame all the red light runner's out there.
Excuse's about short yellow's. LOL
Blameing the timing of light's. LOL
Big brother watching? LOL

Brain dead stupid driver's. Yep.

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

fmobus — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:52:52 -0000

there is an easy way to cut accidents. If you are approaching an intersection on yellow light AND there is a car in front of you, STOP. Period. For me, this is simply common sense: green means "go", yellow means "stop or go, last chance", red means "stop". I always stop on yellow. If someone rear-ends me, well, they are responsible and they will be charged a nice repair bill from me.

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

Tom Brown — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:18:05 -0000

http://www.bizjournals.com/...

So it is reported today that Redflex, an operator of traffic camera and enforcement products has been using an illegal radar device to catch speeders. This device which is not approved to operate and is not licensed has most likely caught 10's of thousands of people speeding - every one of these tickets - would not presumably be under question and those which were paid - should be entitle to be refunded.

How could a company and the contracting authorities make such a serious oversight. Your city may have given a contract to a company to use illegal equipment to catch you doing illegal things (speeding)

If you were issued a ticket by Redflex ..... send it back for a refund

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

Mark Saxenmeyer — Tue, 27 May 2008 16:42:09 -0000

Hi, this is Mark Saxenmeyer from FOX News Chicago. I am a Special Projects Reporter interested in doing a story on red-light cameras and if they are effective or ethical. If you have more information on the topic and live in or near Illinois, please e-mail me at mark.saxenmeyer@foxchicago.com. Thanks!

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

Eric — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:36:23 -0000

Even if they do increase, whose fault is it? It is the people who are trying to run through the intersection, who are apparently riding the bumper of the one in front of them. I say let them wreck themselves silly - over time people will get the message. I'd rather the people running the red light, or trying to, hit each other instead of slamming into me as I try to go on MY green light. At least this keeps the wrecks focused on the people breaking the law instead of those who aren't.

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

jackie — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:34:40 -0000

if cameras are increasing the accidents...i cant imagine that it would do nothing more than inforce people who run red lights..and now those same idiots are looking to see if there is a camera there....i think your study is accurate..all the more reason the accidents need to be proven by video tape from that intersection.....

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

Jon Stacey — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:20:17 -0000

I would suggest they have the yellow caution light count down like say flash 5 4 3 2 1 then change to Red so drivers won't have to guess how fast the light is going to turn red. You would know after 3 you should be slowing down to stopping.

Re: Red-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It

Bob — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:33:38 -0000

In lieu of all the opinions associated with red light cams, I can say this.. After more then 20 years as a paramedic, and affiliated fire rescue person, I can surely back the benefit of making people responsible for slowing, and even stopping when appropriate.
I can personally attest to the greater risk of side impact, side impact while turning, and head on collisions versus rear end collisions 'reportedly' increased from having cameras installed. I have personally witnessed far more people in my life trying to sneak by the light, as opposed to attempting to stop appropriately. And if you are trying to justify disregarding traffic regulations so you 'might' avoid getting rear ended, why aren't you watching your rear view, and your distance, and your speed more closely. These are cheap excuses.